Just because you are persuasive doesn't mean your are manipulate.
Those who present a weak argument can just claim the other side is manipulative.
Persuasive people respects your intelligence.
Persuasive people presents all the facts.
Persuasive people are sincere.
Persuasive people have a legitimate cause.
Persuasive people appeal to ethos, logos and and pathos. (Ethics, Logic, Emotion)
Claiming that someone who does all these is "manipulative" is a cheap cop out. Its a way of writing someone off. Never having to summit your self to Ethics, Logic or Emotional Intelligence..
Its incredibly easy to write truth off as manipulation.
What is manipulation?
Fractional Truths. Like the article telling of 300,000 ballots sent for a recount (without ever stating it wasn't even Trumps votes, but a city council election). This feeds emotional ignorance, it's unethical and fractional truth.
An article quoting a Judge ruling in Trump's favor, but not explaining the judge was a dissenting judge against a majority opinion. More emotional ignorance.
Manipulations creates puppets. Puppets are creepy and scary to be around.
There is a big difference between persuasion and manipulation.
I can be persuasive if allowed to speak. I respect the ethics, intelligence and emotions of others when I persuade. I like people who keep their head, ask intelligent questions, provide challenge and keep me honest.
People who don't allow you to speak and explain yourself, they are the true manipulators afraid of truth.
Micro and Macro patterns are the same.
Beware of "fractional truths". Truths so bad they aren't even half truths.
D&C 121
39 We have learned by sad experience that it is the nature and disposition of almost all men, as soon as they get a little authority, as they suppose, they will immediately begin to exercise unrighteous dominion.
40 Hence many are called, but few are chosen.
41 No power or influence can or ought to be maintained by virtue of the priesthood, only by persuasion, by long-suffering, by gentleness and meekness, and by love unfeigned;
42 By kindness, and pure knowledge, which shall greatly enlarge the soul without hypocrisy, and without guile—
43 Reproving betimes with sharpness, when moved upon by the Holy Ghost; and then showing forth afterwards an increase of love toward him whom thou hast reproved, lest he esteem thee to be his enemy;
44 That he may know that thy faithfulness is stronger than the cords of death.
